[a post by one of the Gannon Cleanup Crew, giving some Gannon history as he sees it; also archived in his Holocaust collection] Article 26358 of soc.history: Newsgroups: soc.college,soc.history,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines Subject: GANNON: LIAR From: kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 94 02:05:54 GMT Followup-To: alt.revisionism Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac [Followups to alt.revisionism, where Gannon will post new lies in the near future - the poor lad can't help it.] Lines: 190 Archive/File: holocaust/b-cpu liar Last-Modified: 1994/01/15 Dan Gannon, who often refers to his detractors, myself and Dr. Keren in particular, as liars, or "VILE LITTLE LIARS," has not yet learned that those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. I thought perhaps it might be worthwhile to demonstrate Dan's long history of lies and misrepresentations here on UseNet, so that users might better understand who they are dealing with... Lie #1: ------- On the 20th. of June, 1992, Michel Fingerhut (fingerhu@ircam.fr) wrote (in alt.revisionism) that Dan Gannon was "maynard," the sysop of b-cpu. Gannon replied "Oh my. So you're the source of the "Maynard is REALLY Dan Gannon" rumor? The above statements are untrue, and you must know it." This "You are Maynard!" "No, I am not!" thread went on for months, as old timers here may recall. As I and others had done over a long period, Michel contacted Alan Batie, the system administrator for agora - the site providing the feed for Gannon's system at the time. On September 6, 1991, Alan replied: "I will forward your message to the admin of b-cpu (Dan Gannon, maynard@b-cpu.pdx.com)" In late 1993, of course, Gannon switched horses on that particular issue, perhaps because he realized his denials were no longer tenable, but the example of his duplicity had been published for all to ponder. Lie #2: ------- On the 22nd. of June, 1992, I received an email message from a Canadian user, who informed me that he had logged into Gannon's system, "gained his trust", as he put it, and chatted with him several times while on-line. He followed this note up with a copy of his log, which contained this interesting insight into Gannon's paranoia, not to mention his penchant for lying whenever it suited his purpose. Gannon, you see, also claimed that he was not "Ralph Winston," a "user" who used Gannon's Waffle system to post neonazi and anti-Semitic drivel to the net. Back during those days, Gannon rarely, if ever, posted anything under his own name, although he did so later on another network (because he had to, of course). Instead, he hid behind "maynard," and "ralphw." Many of us, comparing writing styles (maynard vs. ralphw) concluded that Gannon was using both userid's to post. Gannon denied being "Ralph Winston," just as he denied being "maynard." As we have seen, Gannon's denials aren't worth much... Here's a brief cut from the Canadian user's log (transmission errors and all): Maynard breaking in for a chat: Hi there! How can I help you? I am looking for Ralph Winston. Well, hehehe,{ this may be him! (Can't say because I don't know who youa are for sure, you know) I don't understand. Oh, it's just that if Ralph were only {a USER here, as opposed to the SYSOP, then they couldn't confiscate the system. WxDho would confiscate the system? I don't understand ==End Log quote== While this evidence isn't as damning as that unmasking maynard, it becomes far more compelling when you add the fact that the user writing me had also searched through Gannon's bbs user logs, and found that no "Ralph Winston" had called the system. That, coupled with the chat sequence above, and the writing styles, seems pretty clear - Gannon was lying about Ralph Winston, as he lied about maynard. "Ralph Winston," by the way, used to post articles from the IHR newsletter and the Journal of Historic Review... it seems that the more things change, the more they stay the same... we get the same old articles, posted by 'maynard' and 'dgannon,' now... I guess Gannon consigned "Ralph Winston" to the banished.com dustbin when he could no longer post from his own machine, and had to use his real name on GEnie and, later, UseNet, via techbook.com. Lie #3: ------- Gannon's more recent lies (January, 1994) include the publication of an article from the "Journal of Historical Review," (Request holocaust/leuchter leuchter.05 for details), in which it was claimed that Leuchter had been arrested, without warrant, in Germany. The truth, detailed in the file leuchter.05, is that a warrant for Fred Leuchter's arrest had existed in Germany for over a year. Gannon's concern over what he views as "truth" is clearly evident in the reply to his article (see above), which is archived here. (For Gannon's post, request holocaust/ihr JHR.v13n6 from my server.) Lie #4: ------- Gannon has claimed, many times during the past two years (writing as maynard, dgannon, and ralphw) that neither Winston Churchill nor General Eisenhower wrote anything about the extermination of the Jews, and therefore asserts that "it didn't happen." Dr. (Danny) Keren has pointed out, more than once, that Gannon is lying. To back this assertion up, Dr. Keren provides quotations from both Mr. Churchill's writing and that of General Eisenhower. He asks Gannon to respond, but, no surprise, Portland's Gannon has retreated into silence. Dr. Keren: Churchill, in a letter to Foreign Secretary Eden, regarding the killing of Hungarian Jews at Auschwitz (from Churchill's book about WW2): --------------------------------------------------------------- There is no doubt that this is probably the greatest and most horrible crime ever committed in the whole history of the world, and it has been done by scientific machinery by nominally civilized men in the name of a great State and one of the leading races of Europe. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Excerpted from Eisenhower's "Crusade in Europe": ---------------------------------------------------------------- "The same day [April 12, 1945] I saw my first horror camp. It was near the town of Gotha. I have never felt able to describe my emotional reactions when I first came face to face with indisputable evidence of Nazi brutality and ruthless disregard of every shred of decency. Up to that time I had known about it only generally or through secondary sources. I am certain, however that I have never at any other time experienced an equal sense of shock. I visited every nook and cranny of the camp because I felt it my duty to be in a position from then on to testify at first hand about these things in case there ever grew up at home the belief or assumption that `the stories of Nazi brutality were just propaganda.' Some members of the visiting party were unable to through the ordeal. I not only did so but as soon as I returned to Patton's headquarters that evening I sent communications to both Washington and London, urging the two governments to send instantly to Germany a random group of newspaper editors and representative groups from the national legislatures. I felt that the evidence should be immediately placed before the American and British publics in a fashion that would leave no room for cynical doubt." -------------------------------30---------------------------------- Lie #5: Mr. Gannon denied, not long ago, that he persistently reposts duplicated articles to the net. Yet, on the 15th. of January, 1994, Mr. Gannon published an 18-part series to the net which was entitled HOLOCAUST EXPERTS BLASTED TO BITS! The very FIRST article contained in this bloated exercise in self-delusion was a review, by Mark Weber, entitled CROSSING SWORDS IN FRANCE.... the very _same_ "CROSSING SWORDS" that Mr. Gannon published to about eight newsgroups on the THIRTEENTH of January - two days' earlier! Another stirling example of Gannon's contempt for the net, and truth. See: Newsgroups: soc.history Subject: CROSSING SWORDS IN FRANCE [1/2] Message-ID: <9401122212.A7212wk@banished.com> Subject: CROSSING SWORDS IN FRANCE [2/2] Message-ID: <9401122212.A7213wk@banished.com> Date: 13 Jan 94 06:12:06 GMT As Mr. Gannon also posted the identical article to many other newsgroups, those really interested in plumbing the depths of his deceit might wish to peruse alt.conspiracy, alt.censorship, misc.headlines, soc.college, soc.history, talk.politics.mideast and talk.politics.misc for other copies of "Crossing Swords in France." And, lest we forget, Gannon recently (1/15/94) reposted, for the third time in less than two months, his diatribe aimed at Elie Wiesel, which Dan calls "HATE MONGER WINS NOBEL PEACE PRIZE." Of course, Dan will continue to assert that he doesn't republish articles... but then, that's his mission in life - to lie, again and again, and hope you won't notice. As we can see, Gannon is no stranger to prevarication... it is simply one of the tools of his trade. Other examples of his duplicity exist in my archives, and elsewhere, and I will add them to this file as time and energy permit. FALSUS IN UNO, FALSUS IN OMNIBUS, eh, Gannon? -- /^\__/^\ The Old Frog's Almanac / @ @ \ A Salute to That Old Frog Himse'f, Ryugen Fisher ( ) Ladysmith, British Columbia, Canada \ ~~~~ /