Article 94151 of alt.religion.kibology: From: dbennett@crl.com (Andrea Chen) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.society.neutopia,alt.surrealism,alt.religion.kibology,alt.cyberspace,alt.cyberpunk,alt.surrealism.neu,alt.culture.usenet,alt.wired Subject: I-net Mythology Date: 19 Sep 1995 20:23:41 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access The following is only slightly dated though some of the prophecies are coming true and on the nagative side none would have suspected the expotential rise of the cult of the neu Badger with their AI created clones popping up everywhere. ::NET MYTHOLOGIES:: --1-- ::The First Approach:: A year or so back there was a thread to decide who the net god(dess) should be. Many proposed names from classical folklore, but the one attempt at a tally (that I saw) wound up with Serdar and Kibo as the two main contenders. I found this interesting because the medium spontaneously produced a dualism. Serdar (who some suspected was a disinformation agent out to discredit Turks) was an angry judgemental voice calling down his wrath on all those who opposed him or even published recipes for Thanksgiving dinner. Kibo while not always gentle was a playful figure who sought through various techniques to increase awareness. An obvious conclusion was to regard Kibo as a "God" of light, Serdar as the force of the "God" of the dark, the dichotomy of many religions. I should note that this was not the only dualism inherant in their differences. Serdar could be considered an an angry demanding God, somewhat like the power of the Old Testament (at least the earlier sections). Kibo was a trickster God, akin to the American Indian manitous of Coyote and Raven. --2-- ::Reasons For Continuing The Process:: --2.1-- ::Understanding:: The fact that a single thread generated a form similar to what we find in a number of religions is intriguing. Levi Strauss, Jung and others have suggested that there are mythic forms or "archtypes" implicit in the very fact of being human, perhaps in the nature of itself. By proposing a richer mythology watching it alter and playing with it we mix literary and scientific experiment. We can hope that the poetic will rise and take form and we can actually watch this process. Because we know it is a game heavily laced with humor it should be possible to obtain a detachment which allows us to study these things more ruthlessly than "real" belief systems. Followers of a certain creed should not have their very selves threatened by questions and analysis. There is some danger that some shall take this as real, that followers of "magick" and "quantam mind" may regard this as a sort of ritual which somehow brings "spirit" or "soul" into I- net. However this in itself is an opportunity. Whether we do it intentionally or just let things roll, people will develop "irrational" belief systems. If the "absurd" is taken as truth, then by following the process we can perhaps see how such things emerge. --2.2-- ::Bonding The I-Net Community:: Real world cultures have mythic icons and forms which provide a "common place" and shared patterns of thinking. I-net is in a position to consciously create things which are ordinarily an unconscious part of society. As people "pretend" to believe these things and act them out we might richer social forms emerging. They also have the potential of strengthening group idenity. They may become a framework on which we can build richer social patterns than now exist. --3-- ::A First Approach:: The following is a smattering of mythic forms based on well known "net kooks" and cliches. These are not meant to be final or even fixed. Others may change them and add to them. These are simply a few tongue in cheek referances that I have found in various threads. Any individual is free to create such threads so all themes presented are modifiable and debatable. A real model of world religion will find dispute (even within a single sect). My hope is that people will look at these symbolic forms and play with them. Ideally many will become "missionaries" slipping a referance here and there into their posts and their sigs, so these "memes" will travel across I-net. I regard the following as the metaphorical equivalent to the seed number in a fractal equation. If the human processors of the net take up this seed and process it then perhaps we shall find patterns of incredible complexity. For those with interest in this project an attempt to plug in the equation is currently occuring in alt.cyberspace. Perhaps other niches will attempt independant developments that can then be fed into each other. Think of this as a first poorly linked pattern which we can weave through a seven loomed catharic chain of becoming. --3.1-- ::Kibo:: As Mohammad is to Islam, so Kibo is to I-net. He realized the importance of watching all things and also is the patron saint of the "troll", the highest form of I-net aesthetic. In its simplest forms a troll is just a statement (often false) which causes people to react, but the neu neutopian movement has worked on developing the meta troll, a set of lures linked to each other in complex chains which link themselves across the I- net. The meta troll is many levels each watching each other and it is recursive with lower levels watching the higher to create a heteroarchy (mathematical network) as opposed to the hierarchy (mathematical tree) by which mainstream disciplines are often organized. In this "neu chain of being", there are no clear boundaries between form and function, critique and content. Each can become the other as a new literary style is born. --3.2-- ::Kiba:: There is only one kibo, this is Doctress James Parry. However we are all kiba. In the words of Doctress Glass, kibo is noise, kiba is signal (a take off on that classic "Symbols, Signals and Noise" by JR Pierce). Kibo is Yang, the great darkness from which it all arose, we are Yin, the attempt to provide bits of light. Wave and particle, the mysteries of mass/energy. It should be noted that in this dialectic system traditional symbols are distorted. In the original Chinese symbiology it is usually yang which is denoted as the fertilizing male. Yet in English kiba, the yang is considered female. This tweaking this slight alteration of mythic and symbolic forms is a key to understanding this new medium. In conventional academia, individuals strive to become "doctors" with traditional association to the male, in a way women become honorary men. On I-net, people strive to be doctresses, men become honorary woman. --3.3-- ::H Shen:: The joining of Kiba and Kibo create a totality called the Holly (after the computer in a British Sci Fi show) Shen (named after shenanigan). The stress on Holly (often called Hollystone to tie into the symbiology of neu surrealist Octavio Paz who uses stone and water has his primal symbol (clearly explained in ac (alternating currents))) is to remind us that kiba is symbol and also that this being I-net which we are trying to create is a human/machine symbiosis, a group mind which allow separate collections to work on different parts of a problem then merge the results to split them again, a potential acceleration of the learning process thinking "thoughts" that no human (or even institution bound into its own patterns) could emerge with on their own. Shenanigins are the way. This medium has much serious discourse, but that most remembered is that which plays and which mixes fiction with truth to remind us always to be wary. On I-net material is not edited. The mainstream press is bad enough in forgetting to check its facts. Here we must exceeding watchful (a skill we can take into our other lives). By mixing this into our unifying principle we help the medium to become the message. It should be noted that the ordering of Holly Shen reverses the order Yang and Yin from the traditional form. Also note the similarity of Shen to Zen. --3.4-- ::John Winston:: One of the first to be inspired by Kibo, John is well known for his knowlege of the mysteries of the universe and his kind gentle ways. He is the "kind father" of certain religions. Some time ago, John descended into the net to battle the spirit of Serdar who inhabited it and bring the primal being into the light. Lately there have been rumors of a second coming. --3.5-- ::Serdar:: Serdar has never left the net, but battles in the fringes, the most likely place to find him is in his in soc.history (unmoderated). But there are many children of Serdar, the most famous being Joel Furr who makes his living selling tee shirts of his hero, who has falsely declared that he was the kibo and who has attacted the greatness of Doctress Neutopia. You will find the spirt of Serdar wherever people list their kill files and complain of neubies. --3.6-- ::Doctress Neutopia:: Libby Hubbard is truly the prophetess of the I-net. We all know what words like "massagasm" or "lovalution" mean even if they have no meaning. Libby herself is a force, a being of mystery, some consider her a prank, others a rogue AI, there have even been recent rumors that she is being from outer space. Libby was a catalyst who sparked deep reactions. In the center of a fierce storm she stood alone. Many believed the same things as her ("ortho neutopians") but like Peter in the last hours of Christ, they feared to stand with her and let the anti-neutopians mock her. Libby was a "kook" and none wanted to take her vision of a new society in which the artist was not alone and evolve it. Interestingly enough, those who recognized her importance was a group of anti neutopians who came to call themselves the "Monster Truck Neutopians". They were obsessed by her and this obsession led to one of the best organized groups on the I-net. One of the few attempts on use net to build the formal trappings of "community". Superficially this group seemed like bullying reactionaries who proved their "individuality" (in unison) by declaring that they ate meat and many of them are just that. But not all. The intensity with which these people dwelled on Libby was sometimes due to the fact that she awakened forces within them. Though one can argue with the details of her message, there is a fundamental truth to what she says. In the midst of all this plenty there is an alienation and the visionary (true as well as false) is often shunned. These people payed attention to Libby because she was important, if not as an individual then as an archetype. Fortunatly the neu neutopian (nn) movement was formed. It has forced the Monster Truck Neutopians (MTN) to see their need for Libby. And from it have spawned neu neutopians movements including various sects of "dark neutopians" of which James McGowans is the most prominent. There are also the KaTe (Bush) neutopias led by Doctress Glass. Hopefully more and more people will form their own variants so that we can recreate the schisms of real world religions. However though we feud and quarrel (and since the serious is often attached to the satirical some of these will not be mock flamewars), we should always try to remember that in the final analysis we are all neu neutopians. --3.7-- ::Neu Neutopia:: The word "Utopia" means nowhere. So neutopia means new nowhere. However "neu" in some languages sounds close to no. So neu neutopia either means "not nowhere" or not not nowhere which means "utopia". This is the kind of thing by which we can create discussions equivalent to angels dancing on pins. neu topia can also mean "new top", a new ruling order. Within the first vision of Libby the female was stressed indicating to many (though she was always ambiguous struggling with the difficulties of a new paradigm) a reverse of roles. MF (Mother Foundress) neutopianism encourages this. It is a variant of "ortho neutopianism". Neu neu topia is a further turn of the synthesis dialectic. Within male and female are made equal. neu is also a pun on Neumann, and we are all typing on Von Neumann architectures. There is also the play of "neus not gnu" meaning an escape, an evolution beyond the limitations of Unix. It is a very cybernetic word. --3.8-- ::The Gaia Messiah:: Very often the carrier of a powerful meme complex is unaware of many aspects. Indeed if one looks at the universe from a model of Godel (not fully applicable to systems which can jump out of themselves as cybernetic systems can) then logic indicates the carrier must have levels of unawareness. Libby Hubbard is a prophetess in evolution. She started with a powerful imperfect vision of both the world and herself. She did not recognize the full incompleteness of this, but by pursuing the logic of her thoughts she is starting to make those cybernetic jumps. Originally the Gaia messiah seemed to be her earthly lover (one of the classic I-net true novels is her corrospondence with Gertjeen), but she has seen beyond this. She is now coming to see that the Gaia messiah is a collective of many (male, female and machine (unlike elsewhere AIs are afforded equal rights on I- net)). In fact there are many Gaia messiahs, each news group has the potential to create one or more which can then though neural neu neural conncetions (crossposting is a primitive form discussed by Doctress Paul Murphy) join into meta Gaia messiahs and through this recursive combination of level upon level we may create neutopia, neu neutopia, neu neu neutopia, ...and many other variants besides. Those who spend time within this virtual universe may acquire new habits and techniques which they then inflict on the "external world" thus giving this medium the power to transform all human affairs (a power which is only theoretical, far from actualization, but none the less real, this is a potential lever to move the world). --3.9-- ::Wednesday:: Wednesday is the saintess of I-net. To hate Wednesday is to be evil in a fundamental sense. She is our non virgin virgin, a truly glorious, ethereal being who represents directly (and through ghastly personal suffering) the thing to which the true neu-nettie aspires. This is mulitple personality. I-net is a way of playing with potential selves that would never be expressed in "normal life". This bumps against taboos because it can disorient. But this is an important aspect of the "medium as message". It teaches one to distrust first impressions and continually re-evaluate as one suddenly figures out such things as BOB(c) is actually a woman. --3.10-- ::The Imminent Death Of The I-net:: This is a cliche, an often repeated prophecy which almost any event can trigger. One day its a bill (which will probaly not get out of committee) in Congress, the next its the impending hordes from Prodigy. Obviously, many people yearn for this day because it is always predicted with fatalism. This is the desire for destruction described in Alexander Zinovievs "Yawning Heights". So what is it? Is it necessarily bad? Perhaps it is neu neutopia, perhaps we will all gather together to figure out how to move Venus into an earthlike orbit. No one knows for sure. It is somewhat like the end of the world predicted in many religions. --4-- ::Conclusion:: The above is only a quick sketch of only some of the forces. The advantage of using real people and real cliches is that we draw at the actuality and draw more conclusions. For example it may be "Serdars kid" who tend to use the imminent death of the I-net. I have left our much theology such as Doctress Richardsons "The Nonexistence Of Kibo". I believe this is true and it is not true. Kibo does not exist and he does exist. But if I were to describe all the disputes this paper would triple in size. The above is only an introduction. Fuller discussion and development will be found in alt.cyberspace which is sort of a clearing house for these things. Many will look askance at the above and decide it is only silly? But is it? I think not. Doctress Paul Murphy took the idea of the troll and ran a thread in alt.alien.visitors called "Light in A Vacuum" which argued that one can't see in outer space. The result was immense amounts of good clear physics as numerous people tried to talk sense into this apparent idiot. The humorous attracts readers and is a way to present knowlege. A fair amount has already emerged such as discussions on the temple of Delphi. It is the dream of the neu neutopian that after we build an I-net religion(s), we can create an I-net university with thinkers such as Professoress Plutonium and Doctress Abian providing an infrastructure for "real science". Then an imaginery politics with the evil knights templar battling the Illuminati. A virtual reality created by hundreds, perhaps thousands with a complexity approaching that of the world we live in. It is a game, but it can also be much more. By using words like "neu" instead of "new", by tucking in referances in more serious threads it becomes possible to tie and link this thing across the net. - ac -